Ex-Navy SEAL: The Battle Doesn't End When You Come Home

Rich Roll

Apr 20, 2026

Episode description

Marcus and Amber Capone are the subjects of the Netflix documentary “In Waves and War.” We discuss Marcus's six combat deployments, the TBI and suicidal ideation that followed, the ibogaine treatment that changed everything, and their mission to help veterans who are out of options. READ MORE 👉🏼 http://bit.ly/richroll982

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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Start
00:02:02 Surrender & Ibogaine Impact
00:20:44 Post Service Transition
00:24:48 TBI Depression Crisis
00:30:49 AD BREAK 1
00:35:52 Path to Navy SEALs
00:37:57 SEAL Training Brotherhood
00:42:23 9/11 Changes Everything
00:46:44 Deployment & Family Strain
00:50:02 Marriage Near Collapse
01:01:17 AD BREAK 2
01:19:32 Integration & Healing Work
01:24:48 Stanford Study Validation
01:28:25 Long Term Effects
01:31:35 Host Iboga Experience
01:42:01 Integration & Neuroplasticity
01:52:13 Veteran Mental Health Crisis
02:00:14 Advocacy & Policy Access
02:02:40 VETS & TARA Mind
02:08:10 Doc Impact Policy Progress
02:10:37 Pharma & Insurance Issues
02:13:11 Addressing Skepticism
02:16:35 Generational Healing Ripple
02:22:41 Crisis Resources
02:24:36 Closing Reflections


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Mindsip insights from this episode:

Utilize ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT for trauma healing and spiritual integration

Ibogaine is described as a 'power wash' for deep-rooted trauma, while 5-MeO-DMT serves as a 'polish' afterward to integrate the experience spiritually.

Transform childhood trauma into high performance without self-destruction

Many high-performers, like Navy SEALs, are fueled by childhood trauma, which serves them to a point before it becomes self-destructive.

Recognize internal threats to prevent soldier self-harm

A suicide interventionalist explained that soldiers trained to identify and eliminate threats may turn on themselves when they perceive they are the threat.

Utilize ketamine as a short-term solution for suicide crisis stabilization

For an immediate suicidal crisis, IV or intramuscular ketamine administered in a clinical setting can act as a short-term 'tourniquet' to stabilize a person.

Transform cravings through psychedelics

The host shared that his iboga experience profoundly changed his relationship with cravings, making his daily coffee something he could easily 'take or leave.'.

Leverage ibogaine for significant PTSD and anxiety improvement

A Stanford study on veterans using ibogaine showed an 86-93% improvement in PTSD, depression, and anxiety, alongside a return of neurological capacity.

Obtain medical clearance before ibogaine treatment

Unlike many other psychedelics, ibogaine carries a potential cardiac risk, requiring extensive medical pre-screening like EKGs and blood work before treatment.

Utilize sensory deprivation tanks to restore nervous system balance

Some military commands have installed sensory deprivation (float) tanks to help personnel bring their nervous systems back to baseline from a constant 'redlining' state.

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