THIS Is Keeping You TRAPPED: 5 Tools To Break Free & Hit Your Potential | Phil Stutz & Elise Loehnen

Rich Roll

Apr 14, 2025

Episode description

Phil Stutz, iconic psychiatrist featured in “Stutz” on Netflix, and Elise Loehnen, writer and co-author, explore their new book “True & False Magic,” revealing pain as a portal to growth and accessing creative power beyond rational limitations. READ MORE👉🏾http://bit.ly/richroll903
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:16 Rationality vs. Intuition
00:04:03 Current Chaos Diagnosis
00:05:51 The Nature of Faith
00:07:13 Crisis and Personal Transformation
00:08:58 Collective Illusion and Individualism
00:11:45 Non-duality of Personal and Collective Work
00:13:26 Limitations of Perception
00:14:44 Pattern Recognition and Survival
00:16:18 Crisis as a Catalyst for Change
00:17:01 Preparing for the Unknown
00:17:27 Understanding Pain and Uncertainty
00:17:45 God's Presence in Challenges
00:18:43 Societal Defenses Against Chaos
00:19:08 Opportunity for Growth
00:19:22 Accepting Life's Domains
00:20:28 The Universe Floods In
00:21:10 Defense Mechanisms Against Reality
00:21:43 Non-Linear Growth and Frames
00:22:44 Politics and False Magic
00:24:06 The Role of Community
00:24:54 The Triangle of Existence
00:25:55 Invisible Explosion Concept
00:26:16 Creating Something from Nothing
00:28:32 Engaging with the Life Force
00:30:17 AD BREAK
00:33:20 God's Interest in Engagement
00:33:44 Biphasic Fantasy Explained
00:35:17 Need for Adversaries
00:36:10 Self-Sabotage in Success
00:36:53 Alienation and Conquest Phase
00:38:25 Contextual Understanding in Relationships
00:39:20 The Cycle of Alienation and Conquest
00:40:43 Collaboration in Creative Processes
00:41:50 Masculine and Feminine Frameworks
00:43:58 Actionable Takeaways in Therapy
00:46:36 Death and Rebirth in Life Cycles
00:53:57 Creating from Nothing
00:54:46 Artistic Deflection
00:54:56 Institutional Corruption
00:55:37 Opportunity in Uncertainty
00:56:06 AD BREAK
00:58:20 Perfection and Imperfection
00:58:41 Spiritual Insights
00:59:42 Fear of Financial Insecurity
01:00:11 Epiphany Moments
01:00:48 Medical Career Expectations
01:02:56 Voice of Intuition
01:03:14 Spiritual Awakening
01:04:25 Defining Universes
01:06:27 Value Beyond Numbers
01:07:24 Creative Flow
01:08:31 Understanding Superposition and Certainty
01:09:14 The Role of Anger in Personal Growth
01:10:18 Cosmic Rage and Creative Energy
01:13:37 Part X and Personal Transformation
01:15:35 The Importance of Relationships in Life Force
01:18:10 The Pyramid of Human Connection
01:19:46 Activating Life Force Through Connection
01:21:45 Commitment to Self and Consistency
01:22:59 Life Force and Higher Forces
01:23:31 Closing Remarks

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Episode description

Phil Stutz, iconic psychiatrist featured in “Stutz” on Netflix, and Elise Loehnen, writer and co-author, explore their new book “True & False Magic,” revealing pain as a portal to growth and accessing creative power beyond rational limitations. READ MORE👉🏾http://bit.ly/richroll903
✌🏼🌱 - Rich

This Episode Is Brought To You By…

Eight Sleep: Use code RICHROLL to get $350 off your Pod 4 Ultra👉 https://bit.ly/Eightsleep2024
On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style👉https://bit.ly/ONXRRP2025
BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉https://bit.ly/betterhelp2025rrp
Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off 👉 https://bit.ly/squarespace2025

Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/rrpsponsors

LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST
Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes
Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify
Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods

Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com
Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc
Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips
Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail

CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:16 Rationality vs. Intuition
00:04:03 Current Chaos Diagnosis
00:05:51 The Nature of Faith
00:07:13 Crisis and Personal Transformation
00:08:58 Collective Illusion and Individualism
00:11:45 Non-duality of Personal and Collective Work
00:13:26 Limitations of Perception
00:14:44 Pattern Recognition and Survival
00:16:18 Crisis as a Catalyst for Change
00:17:01 Preparing for the Unknown
00:17:27 Understanding Pain and Uncertainty
00:17:45 God's Presence in Challenges
00:18:43 Societal Defenses Against Chaos
00:19:08 Opportunity for Growth
00:19:22 Accepting Life's Domains
00:20:28 The Universe Floods In
00:21:10 Defense Mechanisms Against Reality
00:21:43 Non-Linear Growth and Frames
00:22:44 Politics and False Magic
00:24:06 The Role of Community
00:24:54 The Triangle of Existence
00:25:55 Invisible Explosion Concept
00:26:16 Creating Something from Nothing
00:28:32 Engaging with the Life Force
00:30:17 AD BREAK
00:33:20 God's Interest in Engagement
00:33:44 Biphasic Fantasy Explained
00:35:17 Need for Adversaries
00:36:10 Self-Sabotage in Success
00:36:53 Alienation and Conquest Phase
00:38:25 Contextual Understanding in Relationships
00:39:20 The Cycle of Alienation and Conquest
00:40:43 Collaboration in Creative Processes
00:41:50 Masculine and Feminine Frameworks
00:43:58 Actionable Takeaways in Therapy
00:46:36 Death and Rebirth in Life Cycles
00:53:57 Creating from Nothing
00:54:46 Artistic Deflection
00:54:56 Institutional Corruption
00:55:37 Opportunity in Uncertainty
00:56:06 AD BREAK
00:58:20 Perfection and Imperfection
00:58:41 Spiritual Insights
00:59:42 Fear of Financial Insecurity
01:00:11 Epiphany Moments
01:00:48 Medical Career Expectations
01:02:56 Voice of Intuition
01:03:14 Spiritual Awakening
01:04:25 Defining Universes
01:06:27 Value Beyond Numbers
01:07:24 Creative Flow
01:08:31 Understanding Superposition and Certainty
01:09:14 The Role of Anger in Personal Growth
01:10:18 Cosmic Rage and Creative Energy
01:13:37 Part X and Personal Transformation
01:15:35 The Importance of Relationships in Life Force
01:18:10 The Pyramid of Human Connection
01:19:46 Activating Life Force Through Connection
01:21:45 Commitment to Self and Consistency
01:22:59 Life Force and Higher Forces
01:23:31 Closing Remarks

CONNECT WITH RICH
✩ Website - http://richroll.com​
✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/
✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/
✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll
✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans
✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich
✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/
✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​
✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/
✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/
✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll

FILMED AND EDITED BY DAN DRAKE
https://www.dandrake333.com/

* * * * *

NEW TO RICH?
Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles:
http://bit.ly/otillonyt
http://bit.ly/vegansglam

I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE:
2630 Conejo Spectrum St.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320

#richroll #richrollpodcast

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