Dr. Matt Walker: Improve Sleep to Boost Mood & Emotional Regulation | Huberman Lab Guest Series

Andrew Huberman

May 1, 2024

Episode description

This is episode 5 of our 6-part special series on sleep with Dr. Matthew Walker, Ph.D., a professor of neuroscience and psychology at the University of California, Berkeley and the host of The Matt Walker Podcast. In this episode, we explain the connection between sleep and mood, emotional regulation and mental well-being.

We explain the role of rapid eye movement (REM) sleep in processing emotions and emotional memories and why sleep deprivation causes agitation, impulsivity and emotional reactivity.

We also discuss why sleep disruption is a hallmark feature of PTSD, anxiety, depression, suicidality, and other psychiatric conditions.

We explain protocols for improving REM sleep and other sleep phases in order to harness the therapeutic power of quality sleep to feel calmer and emotionally restored.

This episode describes various actionable tools to improve sleep for those struggling with mental health or mood and those wanting to bolster their overall state and well-being.

The next episode in this special series explores dreams, including lucid dreaming, nightmares and dream interpretation.

Access show notes, including referenced articles and additional resources: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/guest-series-dr-matt-walker-improve-sleep-to-boost-mood-emotional-regulation

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Timestamps
00:00:00 Sleep & Mental Health
00:01:09 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, LMNT & BetterHelp
00:05:14 Emotions & Sleep, Amygdala
00:17:27 Emotional Memory & Sleep
00:25:48 “Overnight Therapy” & REM Sleep, Noradrenaline
00:29:13 Sponsor: AG1
00:30:27 Sleep to “Remember & Forget”, Trauma; REM Sleep
00:38:27 Hinge Analogy; Motivation, Impulsivity & Addiction
00:47:08 Tool: Improve REM Sleep, Social Jet Lag, Alcohol & THC, Addiction
00:56:18 Sponsor: InsideTracker
00:57:23 Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) & REM Sleep
01:06:53 Noradrenaline & REM Sleep, PTSD & Prazosin
01:09:40 Addiction, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR); Liminal States
01:16:46 Anxiety & Sleep, Mood vs. Emotions
01:23:50 Deep Non-REM Sleep & Anxiety, Sleep Quality
01:28:51 Tool: Improve Deep Non-REM Sleep, Temperature; Alcohol
01:34:56 Suicidality & Sleep, Pattern Recognition; Nightmares
01:46:21 Depression, Anxiety & Time Context
01:51:24 Depression, Too Much Sleep?; REM Changes & Antidepressants
01:57:37 Sleep Deprivation & Depression
02:01:34 Tool: Circadian Misalignment & Mental Health, Chronotype
02:04:05 Tools: Daytime Light & Nighttime Darkness; “Junk Light”
02:13:04 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

#HubermanLab #Health #Sleep

Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com

Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Episode description

This is episode 5 of our 6-part special series on sleep with Dr. Matthew Walker, Ph.D., a professor of neuroscience and psychology at the University of California, Berkeley and the host of The Matt Walker Podcast. In this episode, we explain the connection between sleep and mood, emotional regulation and mental well-being.

We explain the role of rapid eye movement (REM) sleep in processing emotions and emotional memories and why sleep deprivation causes agitation, impulsivity and emotional reactivity.

We also discuss why sleep disruption is a hallmark feature of PTSD, anxiety, depression, suicidality, and other psychiatric conditions.

We explain protocols for improving REM sleep and other sleep phases in order to harness the therapeutic power of quality sleep to feel calmer and emotionally restored.

This episode describes various actionable tools to improve sleep for those struggling with mental health or mood and those wanting to bolster their overall state and well-being.

The next episode in this special series explores dreams, including lucid dreaming, nightmares and dream interpretation.

Access show notes, including referenced articles and additional resources: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/guest-series-dr-matt-walker-improve-sleep-to-boost-mood-emotional-regulation

Thank you to our sponsors
AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman
Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman
LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman
BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman
InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman
Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman

Huberman Lab Social & Website
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman
Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com
Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter

Dr. Matt Walker
Website: https://www.sleepdiplomat.com
Podcast: https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/podcast
"Why We Sleep": https://amzn.to/4a9Tyyl
Academic profile: https://bit.ly/3UK2Ags
X: https://twitter.com/sleepdiplomat
Instagram: https://instagram.com/drmattwalker
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sleepdiplomat
MasterClass: https://bit.ly/3U4iEYI

Timestamps
00:00:00 Sleep & Mental Health
00:01:09 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, LMNT & BetterHelp
00:05:14 Emotions & Sleep, Amygdala
00:17:27 Emotional Memory & Sleep
00:25:48 “Overnight Therapy” & REM Sleep, Noradrenaline
00:29:13 Sponsor: AG1
00:30:27 Sleep to “Remember & Forget”, Trauma; REM Sleep
00:38:27 Hinge Analogy; Motivation, Impulsivity & Addiction
00:47:08 Tool: Improve REM Sleep, Social Jet Lag, Alcohol & THC, Addiction
00:56:18 Sponsor: InsideTracker
00:57:23 Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) & REM Sleep
01:06:53 Noradrenaline & REM Sleep, PTSD & Prazosin
01:09:40 Addiction, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR); Liminal States
01:16:46 Anxiety & Sleep, Mood vs. Emotions
01:23:50 Deep Non-REM Sleep & Anxiety, Sleep Quality
01:28:51 Tool: Improve Deep Non-REM Sleep, Temperature; Alcohol
01:34:56 Suicidality & Sleep, Pattern Recognition; Nightmares
01:46:21 Depression, Anxiety & Time Context
01:51:24 Depression, Too Much Sleep?; REM Changes & Antidepressants
01:57:37 Sleep Deprivation & Depression
02:01:34 Tool: Circadian Misalignment & Mental Health, Chronotype
02:04:05 Tools: Daytime Light & Nighttime Darkness; “Junk Light”
02:13:04 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

#HubermanLab #Health #Sleep

Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com

Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Recognize nightmares as key suicide risk indicators

Nightmares are a more powerful predictor of suicide risk than sleep disruption alone, increasing the likelihood by five to eight times.

Align sleep with your chronotype to combat depression

For depression, circadian misalignment—not sleeping in sync with your natural chronotype—is one of the strongest predictive factors, making timing the most critical aspect of sleep to address first.

Prioritize deep non-REM sleep to reduce anxiety

It is the quality of deep non-REM sleep, not REM sleep, that is most predictive of reducing anxiety, as it helps reset the nervous system towards a calmer state.

Utilize Prazosin to eliminate PTSD nightmares

The blood pressure drug Prazosin can resolve PTSD-related repetitive nightmares by blocking noradrenaline in the brain, allowing the 'overnight therapy' function of REM sleep to finally work.

Sleep in 20-30 minutes to enhance REM sleep

The simplest, non-pharmacological way to increase your REM sleep is to sleep in 20-30 minutes later in the morning, as the last part of the night is the most REM-rich phase.

Manage sleep to reduce impulsivity and addiction risk

When sleep-deprived, you become abnormally overreactive to both negative and positive rewarding stimuli, which explains why you are more impulsive and have a higher addiction potential.

Prioritize REM sleep to process emotional memories safely

REM sleep is the only time during the 24-hour period when the brain completely shuts off the stress-related chemical noradrenaline, creating a safe environment to process emotional memories.

Utilize REM sleep for emotional healing and memory retention

REM sleep acts like overnight therapy by stripping the emotional charge, or the 'bitter emotional rind,' from memories, allowing you to retain the information without the visceral reaction.

Restore sleep to reconnect brain's rational control

Sleep deprivation severs the connection from the prefrontal cortex, which acts as a rational brake, to the amygdala, leaving you with an emotional gas pedal and very little control.

Prioritize sleep to regulate emotional responses

A lack of sleep can cause a 60% increase in the reactivity of the amygdala, the brain's emotional center, making neutral events feel emotional and negative events feel much worse.

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