The Dark Side of Fame, Money & High Performance With Dr. Mike Israetel | Bryan Johnson Podcast #8

Bryan Johnson

Jun 2, 2025

Episode description

Dr. Mike Israetel returns to the podcast. In this episode we discussed deep work, AI, and how sudden money and fame changed our lives.

Dr. Mike is an expert in the field of fitness and performance. He’s served as a professor at Lehman College, Temple University, and the University of Central Missouri, teaching exercise science courses focusing on nutrition, strength, and hypertrophy.

🏋️ Learn more about Dr. Mike: http://rpstrength.com/mike
🥦 Order my Blueprint Stack: https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/collections/all-products
📩 Subscribe for my latest protocols: https://dontdie.bryanjohnson.com/

Hosts
Bryan Johnson: Blueprint Founder
Kate Tolo: Blueprint Co-Founder
Dr. Mike Mallin: Lead Physician for Bryan Johnson

Let’s be friends:
Twitter: https://x.com/bryan_johnson
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanjohnson_
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_bryan_johnson_

Project Blueprint and Don’t Die celebrate that we, humanity, are evolving into something new. Join me on this journey.

Chapters
0:00:00 - Deep Work
0:01:22 - Why Bryan Quit Flying
0:03:36 - Flow States
0:06:03 - ChatGPT & Edibles
0:08:49 - Dr. Mike’s Creative Process
0:14:36 - Everyone’s Creative Triggers
0:20:09 - Messaging Overload
0:25:28 - Fame & Money
0:34:00 - Does Money Make You Happier?
0:39:01 - Fame vs Fortune
0:50:23 - Cancel Culture
0:57:02 - Gratitude, & Identity
1:03:02 - Friendship & Fame

Episode description

Dr. Mike Israetel returns to the podcast. In this episode we discussed deep work, AI, and how sudden money and fame changed our lives.

Dr. Mike is an expert in the field of fitness and performance. He’s served as a professor at Lehman College, Temple University, and the University of Central Missouri, teaching exercise science courses focusing on nutrition, strength, and hypertrophy.

🏋️ Learn more about Dr. Mike: http://rpstrength.com/mike
🥦 Order my Blueprint Stack: https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/collections/all-products
📩 Subscribe for my latest protocols: https://dontdie.bryanjohnson.com/

Hosts
Bryan Johnson: Blueprint Founder
Kate Tolo: Blueprint Co-Founder
Dr. Mike Mallin: Lead Physician for Bryan Johnson

Let’s be friends:
Twitter: https://x.com/bryan_johnson
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanjohnson_
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_bryan_johnson_

Project Blueprint and Don’t Die celebrate that we, humanity, are evolving into something new. Join me on this journey.

Chapters
0:00:00 - Deep Work
0:01:22 - Why Bryan Quit Flying
0:03:36 - Flow States
0:06:03 - ChatGPT & Edibles
0:08:49 - Dr. Mike’s Creative Process
0:14:36 - Everyone’s Creative Triggers
0:20:09 - Messaging Overload
0:25:28 - Fame & Money
0:34:00 - Does Money Make You Happier?
0:39:01 - Fame vs Fortune
0:50:23 - Cancel Culture
0:57:02 - Gratitude, & Identity
1:03:02 - Friendship & Fame

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Understand updated money-happiness curve for greater fulfillment

An update to the famous study shows happiness continues to increase past $75,000, but on a much shallower curve requiring exponentially more money for the same benefit.

Prioritize comfort for deep cognitive work over standing desks

Deep cognitive work requires a comfortable, seated position, and the idea of a standing or walking desk is insane.

Leverage long flights for AI brainstorming sessions

Long flights are a great opportunity for idea generation by having extended, uninterrupted conversations with AI like ChatGPT.

Utilize edible marijuana to boost creative idea generation

Edible marijuana can be used to generate a high volume of creative ideas, which must be logically filtered for quality later.

Utilize mechanistic cycle to enhance creativity

Creativity is a mechanistic cycle of building a knowledge base, generating new ideas off of it, and then using logic to "prune" the bad ones.

Trigger creativity through intense exercise

For some people, intense exercise like a jog or run is the primary trigger for creative ideas, as keeping the body busy allows the mind to focus.

Assume self-interest in financial relationships

When you have money, you must start with the default assumption that everyone wants something from you due to their own self-interest.

Recognize public criticism as a reflection of others' flaws

A way to handle public criticism is to realize that people often project their own flaws, and their critique is a confession about themselves.

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