How to Set & Achieve Massive Goals | Alex Honnold

Andrew Huberman

Sep 1, 2025

Episode description

My guest is ⁠Alex Honnold⁠, a professional rock climber considered by many to be one of the greatest athletes of all time for his historic ⁠free solo⁠ (no ropes or man-made holds) ascent of El Capitan in Yosemite. We discuss how to envision massive goals in any part of life and the process of breaking down those goals into actionable daily steps. Alex shares how embracing your uniqueness and mortality is the most powerful way to envision and live a fuller, more intentional life. We also discuss strength and endurance training, assessing risk and how Alex prepares mentally and physically for extreme challenges. We also discuss how to balance goal-seeking with family and work. Regardless of your goals, profession or age, this conversation will very likely reshape how you think about and approach your life, goals and potential.

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*Alex Honnold*
Website: https://www.alexhonnold.com
Climbing Gold (podcast): https://www.climbinggold.com
Alone on the Wall (book): https://amzn.to/3I05vxD
Honnold Foundation: https://www.honnoldfoundation.org/#mission
TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM6M_7wBMc&t=1s
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqnNQOiZzpPNazMN0cBAzw
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexhonnold
X: https://x.com/alexhonnold
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlexHonnold

*Timestamps*
00:00:00 Alex Honnold
00:02:17 Intrinsic & Extrinsic Motivation, Setting Big Goals
00:05:00 Preparing for Free Solo of El Capitan, Route Memorization & Conditions
00:10:09 Sponsors: Joovv & BetterHelp
00:12:35 Overthinking, Kinesthetic Flow; Climbing & Surprise
00:16:24 Aging & Climbing; Olympics & Broadening Climbing Culture; Parkour
00:23:04 Grip Strength, Aging, Climbing Technique, Yosemite National Park, Half Dome
00:29:00 Free Soloing & Rope Climbing, Safety & Risk; Aging & Death; Mentors
00:38:32 Sponsors: AG1 & Maui Nui
00:41:29 Climbing Lifestyle, Training, Career; Recovery
00:47:44 Technology, Smartphones & Distraction from Goals, Focus
00:51:09 Pursuing Ambitious Goals, Tool: Small Daily Challenges
00:55:56 Fear, Brain Scan & Public Speaking; Evaluating Risk
00:59:40 Doing What You Love, Life Crisis, Tool: Contemplating Death
01:03:49 Childhood, Passion & Choosing Career Path; University
01:11:46 Sponsor: Function
01:13:34 Outdoor Exploration, Yosemite, National Parks, Rucking, Trail Running
01:18:18 Girl Climber Film, Effort & Dedication
01:23:29 Strength Training, Pull-Ups, Muscle-Ups, Tool: Increase Sets & Reduce Soreness
01:31:59 Endurance & Strength Training Schedule; Posture; Running
01:38:52 Body Balance, Leanness; Muscle Cramps; Multi-Day Climbs
01:42:31 Awe in Nature, Spiritual Experiences; How Geckos Climb; Cliff-Dwelling Wildlife
01:46:46 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Episode description

My guest is ⁠Alex Honnold⁠, a professional rock climber considered by many to be one of the greatest athletes of all time for his historic ⁠free solo⁠ (no ropes or man-made holds) ascent of El Capitan in Yosemite. We discuss how to envision massive goals in any part of life and the process of breaking down those goals into actionable daily steps. Alex shares how embracing your uniqueness and mortality is the most powerful way to envision and live a fuller, more intentional life. We also discuss strength and endurance training, assessing risk and how Alex prepares mentally and physically for extreme challenges. We also discuss how to balance goal-seeking with family and work. Regardless of your goals, profession or age, this conversation will very likely reshape how you think about and approach your life, goals and potential.

Episode show notes: https://go.hubermanlab.com/6RNPzxY

*Thank you to our sponsors*
AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman
Joovv: https://joovv.com/huberman
BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman
Maui Nui: https://mauinuivenison.com/huberman
Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman

*Follow Huberman Lab*
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab
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Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com
Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter

*Alex Honnold*
Website: https://www.alexhonnold.com
Climbing Gold (podcast): https://www.climbinggold.com
Alone on the Wall (book): https://amzn.to/3I05vxD
Honnold Foundation: https://www.honnoldfoundation.org/#mission
TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM6M_7wBMc&t=1s
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqnNQOiZzpPNazMN0cBAzw
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexhonnold
X: https://x.com/alexhonnold
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlexHonnold

*Timestamps*
00:00:00 Alex Honnold
00:02:17 Intrinsic & Extrinsic Motivation, Setting Big Goals
00:05:00 Preparing for Free Solo of El Capitan, Route Memorization & Conditions
00:10:09 Sponsors: Joovv & BetterHelp
00:12:35 Overthinking, Kinesthetic Flow; Climbing & Surprise
00:16:24 Aging & Climbing; Olympics & Broadening Climbing Culture; Parkour
00:23:04 Grip Strength, Aging, Climbing Technique, Yosemite National Park, Half Dome
00:29:00 Free Soloing & Rope Climbing, Safety & Risk; Aging & Death; Mentors
00:38:32 Sponsors: AG1 & Maui Nui
00:41:29 Climbing Lifestyle, Training, Career; Recovery
00:47:44 Technology, Smartphones & Distraction from Goals, Focus
00:51:09 Pursuing Ambitious Goals, Tool: Small Daily Challenges
00:55:56 Fear, Brain Scan & Public Speaking; Evaluating Risk
00:59:40 Doing What You Love, Life Crisis, Tool: Contemplating Death
01:03:49 Childhood, Passion & Choosing Career Path; University
01:11:46 Sponsor: Function
01:13:34 Outdoor Exploration, Yosemite, National Parks, Rucking, Trail Running
01:18:18 Girl Climber Film, Effort & Dedication
01:23:29 Strength Training, Pull-Ups, Muscle-Ups, Tool: Increase Sets & Reduce Soreness
01:31:59 Endurance & Strength Training Schedule; Posture; Running
01:38:52 Body Balance, Leanness; Muscle Cramps; Multi-Day Climbs
01:42:31 Awe in Nature, Spiritual Experiences; How Geckos Climb; Cliff-Dwelling Wildlife
01:46:46 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Train heavy with fewer reps for optimal strength gains

To build strength without excessive soreness and recovery time, train with heavy weights but perform fewer reps than your maximum, spread across more sets.

Achieve big goals through consistent small wins

Spectacularly big achievements are the natural outgrowth of consistently setting and accomplishing small, daily goals over many years.

Climb like you're ascending a steep staircase for balance and power

Beginners should think of climbing as walking up a very steep staircase, using their legs for power and their hands primarily for balance.

Understand risks: most free soloists die in accidents, not soloing

Contrary to popular belief, the majority of well-known free soloists who have died did so in other accidents, not while pushing the limits of the sport.

Contemplate mortality to inspire a fulfilling life

Contemplating your own mortality is a powerful motivator to live a full life and do the things you are excited about before you die.

Recognize ropes as false safety in climbing to avoid risky terrain

Climbing with a rope can be more dangerous than easy free soloing because it encourages you to push into unknown, risky terrain you would otherwise avoid.

Leverage grip strength as a health indicator

Strong grip strength is likely just a correlation for overall health, indicating you are a person who uses your body and 'does stuff all the time'.

Challenge perceived limits to combat aging in athletics

A potential sign of aging as an athlete is surprising yourself less often by exceeding your own perceived physical limits.

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