The TRUTH About Social Media & Your Children | Jonathan Haidt X Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Apr 22, 2024

Episode description

Rich sits down with Jonathan Haidt, an NYU professor and best-selling author, to talk about the negative impact of technology and social media on young people’s mental health and well-being, the harmful effects of hyperconnectivity, proposing potential solutions, and more. To read more about Jonathan and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾 https://bit.ly/richroll827

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FILMED AND EDITED BY BLAKE CURTIS, DAN DRAKE & MORGAN MCRAE
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:06 Inflection Points In Technology And Mental Health
00:04:39 Impact Of Social Media On Mental Health
00:07:48 Effects Of Smartphone And Social Media On Child Development
00:11:55 Loss Of Childhood Independence And Trust
00:14:58 Techno Optimism In The 90s And Early 2000s
00:15:39 Reflections On The Early Days Of The Internet
00:15:57 The Impact Of Hyper Connectivity
00:16:22 Foundational Harms Of Technology
00:17:57 Decline In Social Interaction
00:19:10 Impact Of Technology On Teenage Socialization
00:20:46 Attention Fragmentation And Multitasking
00:23:54 Addiction And Brain Development
00:30:41 Sponsor Break
00:31:47 Gender Differences In Technology Impact
00:32:31 The Increase In Suicide Rates
00:33:25 The Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
00:34:05 The Effects Of Social Media On Girls
00:35:37 The Psychological Differences Between Boys And Girls
00:38:44 Negative Effects Of Snapchat
00:42:11 The Value Of Social Media To Society
00:46:23 Proposed Solutions To Counteract The Negative Impact Of Technology
00:47:13 Smartphone And Social Media Norms
00:47:52 Challenges Of Implementing Norms
00:48:41 Impact Of Florida Law
00:48:53 Tech Companies' Responsibility
00:49:26 Phone-Free Schools
00:51:25 Restoring Childhood Independence
00:52:15 Addressing Skepticism On Social Media's Impact
00:52:43 Debunking Moral Panic Argument
00:57:07 Consideration Of Other Factors
00:58:52 TikTok And Mental Health
01:01:42 Fragmentation And Misinformation
01:02:37 The Impact Of Social Media
01:04:22 Silencing Of Moderates
01:06:47 Challenges For Democracy And Younger Generation
01:11:04 Erosion Of Trust In Institutions
01:16:19 Hope For Change And Spiritual Degradation
01:19:17 Spiritual Wisdom And Loss Of Guidance
01:20:00 Ego Vs. Self-Transcendence
01:20:20 Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
01:21:07 Self-Improvement And Mental Health
01:22:19 Vertical Dimension Of Life
01:24:31 Morality And Community
01:26:21 Cohesion In American Democracy
01:30:28 Parenting And Technology
01:34:10 Tech Companies And Reform
01:35:14 The Legal Battle Against Social Media Platforms
01:36:12 The Need For Regulation And Bipartisan Support
01:36:33 Social Media As A Common Enemy
01:37:21 Impact Of Different Social Media Platforms
01:39:48 Age Restrictions And Lack Of Enforcement
01:41:51 International Efforts And Leadership
01:43:58 Art Project As A Tool For Change
01:50:13 Hope For Change
01:53:09 Credits

* * * * *

NEW TO RICH?
Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles:
http://bit.ly/otillonyt
http://bit.ly/vegansglam

I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE:
2630 Conejo Spectrum St.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320

#richroll #richrollpodcast

Episode description

Rich sits down with Jonathan Haidt, an NYU professor and best-selling author, to talk about the negative impact of technology and social media on young people’s mental health and well-being, the harmful effects of hyperconnectivity, proposing potential solutions, and more. To read more about Jonathan and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾 https://bit.ly/richroll827

This Episode Brought To You By...

CAMELBAK
Use my code RICHROLL for 20% OFF 👉 https://bit.ly/camelbak2024

✌🏼🌱 - Rich

LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST
Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes
Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify
Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods

Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com
Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc
Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips
Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail

CONNECT WITH RICH
✩ Website - http://richroll.com​
✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/
✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/
✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll
✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans
✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich
✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/
✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​
✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/
✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/
✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll

FILMED AND EDITED BY BLAKE CURTIS, DAN DRAKE & MORGAN MCRAE
https://www.blakecurtis.net/
https://www.dandrake333.com/

TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:06 Inflection Points In Technology And Mental Health
00:04:39 Impact Of Social Media On Mental Health
00:07:48 Effects Of Smartphone And Social Media On Child Development
00:11:55 Loss Of Childhood Independence And Trust
00:14:58 Techno Optimism In The 90s And Early 2000s
00:15:39 Reflections On The Early Days Of The Internet
00:15:57 The Impact Of Hyper Connectivity
00:16:22 Foundational Harms Of Technology
00:17:57 Decline In Social Interaction
00:19:10 Impact Of Technology On Teenage Socialization
00:20:46 Attention Fragmentation And Multitasking
00:23:54 Addiction And Brain Development
00:30:41 Sponsor Break
00:31:47 Gender Differences In Technology Impact
00:32:31 The Increase In Suicide Rates
00:33:25 The Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
00:34:05 The Effects Of Social Media On Girls
00:35:37 The Psychological Differences Between Boys And Girls
00:38:44 Negative Effects Of Snapchat
00:42:11 The Value Of Social Media To Society
00:46:23 Proposed Solutions To Counteract The Negative Impact Of Technology
00:47:13 Smartphone And Social Media Norms
00:47:52 Challenges Of Implementing Norms
00:48:41 Impact Of Florida Law
00:48:53 Tech Companies' Responsibility
00:49:26 Phone-Free Schools
00:51:25 Restoring Childhood Independence
00:52:15 Addressing Skepticism On Social Media's Impact
00:52:43 Debunking Moral Panic Argument
00:57:07 Consideration Of Other Factors
00:58:52 TikTok And Mental Health
01:01:42 Fragmentation And Misinformation
01:02:37 The Impact Of Social Media
01:04:22 Silencing Of Moderates
01:06:47 Challenges For Democracy And Younger Generation
01:11:04 Erosion Of Trust In Institutions
01:16:19 Hope For Change And Spiritual Degradation
01:19:17 Spiritual Wisdom And Loss Of Guidance
01:20:00 Ego Vs. Self-Transcendence
01:20:20 Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
01:21:07 Self-Improvement And Mental Health
01:22:19 Vertical Dimension Of Life
01:24:31 Morality And Community
01:26:21 Cohesion In American Democracy
01:30:28 Parenting And Technology
01:34:10 Tech Companies And Reform
01:35:14 The Legal Battle Against Social Media Platforms
01:36:12 The Need For Regulation And Bipartisan Support
01:36:33 Social Media As A Common Enemy
01:37:21 Impact Of Different Social Media Platforms
01:39:48 Age Restrictions And Lack Of Enforcement
01:41:51 International Efforts And Leadership
01:43:58 Art Project As A Tool For Change
01:50:13 Hope For Change
01:53:09 Credits

* * * * *

NEW TO RICH?
Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles:
http://bit.ly/otillonyt
http://bit.ly/vegansglam

I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE:
2630 Conejo Spectrum St.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320

#richroll #richrollpodcast

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Reject Snapchat's cruel social features to protect mental health

Snapchat's features like 'streaks' and the premium 'solar system' map, which ranks friends' closeness, are described as cruel and evil tools designed to addict kids and create social anxiety.

Break free from collective action trap in social media use

A study found college students would have to be paid to quit social media alone, but would willingly pay money to quit if everyone else did too, perfectly illustrating the collective action trap.

Reclaim childhood with four essential norms

Four collective norms are proposed to solve the crisis: no smartphones before high school, no social media until 16, phone-free schools, and more real-world independence.

Disconnect from online life to embrace spiritual wisdom

A life online is the exact opposite of what ancient spiritual traditions advise, as it promotes instant judgment, a cluttered mind, and intense self-focus rather than forgiveness, mental clarity, and self-transcendence.

Address mental illness valorization on social media platforms

Social media has gone beyond de-stigmatizing mental illness to actively valorizing it, where displaying symptoms on platforms like TikTok becomes prestigious and socially contagious among teens.

Balance physical and digital protection for children

We are hyper-protective of our children in the physical world, which has become safer, yet completely underprotective of them in the digital world, which is proving to be far more dangerous.

Recognize social distancing trends in teens pre-COVID

The decline in teenagers spending time with friends was so steep after 2012 that the social distancing caused by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 was no greater than the decline from the previous year.

Recognize risks of video game and social media addiction in children

While not all kids become addicted to video games or social media, a significant portion, around 5-10%, develop problematic or compulsive use, which is like letting your child play Russian roulette with their development.

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