Everything You Need To Know About the “Futuristic Detox Sauna” Stacking Ozone, PEMF, Microcurrents & MORE (This Is NEXT-LEVEL!), With HOCATT Inventor André Smith
Ben Greenfield
Aug 9, 2025
Episode description
In this episode with André Smith, you'll get to explore the journey behind one of the most intriguing wellness technologies of our time: the HOCATT. If you’ve ever wondered what it would be like to sit inside a futuristic “sauna” that does much more than just make you sweat—think ozone therapy, PEMF, frequency microcurrents, carbonic acid, and far infrared—all stacked into one, this show is for you.
With a deep passion for enhancing humans' quality of life, André has developed multiple technologies that aim to improve personal wellness. His entrepreneurial spirit is driven by a commitment to holistic health practices and a desire to offer practical, effective solutions to people around the world.
Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/hocattpodcast
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Mindsip insights from this episode:
Utilize far-infrared waves to enhance water structure for toxin removal
Far-infrared waves can structure the water in your body into hexagonal shapes that can more easily envelop toxins and heavy metals for removal.
Stack therapies with HOCATT for synergistic detoxification
The HOCATT device intentionally stacks multiple therapies like heat, ozone, carbonic acid, and PEMF, as each one potentiates the others to create a powerful, synergistic detoxification effect.
Protect endothelial glycocalyx with green seaweed extract
A rare green seaweed extract, found in a product called Arterisil HP, is one of the few substances shown to protect and restore the endothelial glycocalyx, the micro-thin lining of your 60,000 miles of blood vessels.
Maintain core body temperature below 104°F for safe healing
Inducing a fever is a powerful healing mechanism, but core body temperatures should not exceed 104°F (40°C) as most enzymes, hormones, and neurotransmitters will permanently deform and get damaged above this point.
Recognize carbonic acid's role in oxygen delivery and blood vessel relaxation
Carbonic acid, formed from CO2 and water in the body, is not a waste product but a crucial molecule that relaxes blood vessels and helps red blood cells release oxygen into tissues.
Utilize transdermal carbonic acid therapy to calm nerves
Transdermal carbonic acid therapy sedates the central nervous system, helping to shift the body from a chronic stress (sympathetic) state to a rest-and-digest (parasympathetic) state, which is critical for repair.
Experience 257% blood flow boost with carbonic acid footbath
In a Japanese study, diabetic patients who placed their feet in a carbonic acid footbath for just three minutes experienced a 257% increase in blood flow.
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