Everything You Need To Know About the “Futuristic Detox Sauna” Stacking Ozone, PEMF, Microcurrents & MORE (This Is NEXT-LEVEL!), With HOCATT Inventor André Smith

Ben Greenfield

Aug 9, 2025

Episode description

In this episode with André Smith, you'll get to explore the journey behind one of the most intriguing wellness technologies of our time: the HOCATT. If you’ve ever wondered what it would be like to sit inside a futuristic “sauna” that does much more than just make you sweat—think ozone therapy, PEMF, frequency microcurrents, carbonic acid, and far infrared—all stacked into one, this show is for you.

With a deep passion for enhancing humans' quality of life, André has developed multiple technologies that aim to improve personal wellness. His entrepreneurial spirit is driven by a commitment to holistic health practices and a desire to oﬀer practical, eﬀective solutions to people around the world.

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/hocattpodcast

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Episode description

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/hocattpodcast

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Mindsip insights from this episode:

Utilize far-infrared waves to enhance water structure for toxin removal

Far-infrared waves can structure the water in your body into hexagonal shapes that can more easily envelop toxins and heavy metals for removal.

#infrared

#toxin

Stack therapies with HOCATT for synergistic detoxification

The HOCATT device intentionally stacks multiple therapies like heat, ozone, carbonic acid, and PEMF, as each one potentiates the others to create a powerful, synergistic detoxification effect.

#detox

#device

Protect endothelial glycocalyx with green seaweed extract

A rare green seaweed extract, found in a product called Arterisil HP, is one of the few substances shown to protect and restore the endothelial glycocalyx, the micro-thin lining of your 60,000 miles of blood vessels.

#endothelial

#glycocalyx

Maintain core body temperature below 104°F for safe healing

Inducing a fever is a powerful healing mechanism, but core body temperatures should not exceed 104°F (40°C) as most enzymes, hormones, and neurotransmitters will permanently deform and get damaged above this point.

#body-temperature

#healing

Recognize carbonic acid's role in oxygen delivery and blood vessel relaxation

Carbonic acid, formed from CO2 and water in the body, is not a waste product but a crucial molecule that relaxes blood vessels and helps red blood cells release oxygen into tissues.

#blood-flow

#oxygen

Utilize transdermal carbonic acid therapy to calm nerves

Transdermal carbonic acid therapy sedates the central nervous system, helping to shift the body from a chronic stress (sympathetic) state to a rest-and-digest (parasympathetic) state, which is critical for repair.

#stress

#transdermal

Experience 257% blood flow boost with carbonic acid footbath

In a Japanese study, diabetic patients who placed their feet in a carbonic acid footbath for just three minutes experienced a 257% increase in blood flow.