We Realize It Too Late! – Why You Will Marry The Wrong Person | Alain De Botton

Rangan Chatterjee

Sep 3, 2025

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We live in a culture that often celebrates the ‘perfect’ relationship but does little to prepare us for the reality of long-term commitment. Modern life is filled with idealised images of love and marriage – but the truth, as this week’s returning guest suggests, is far more human, messy and ultimately hopeful.

I’m delighted to welcome Alain de Botton back to the podcast. Alain is an author, internationally acclaimed philosopher and founder of The School of Life, a hugely popular education and wellness organisation that provides guidance on how to achieve happiness and fulfilment. His latest book, ‘From Trauma to Healing: How to Locate, Process and Recover From Psychological Wounds’ helps us understand what trauma is, how it affects us and what we can do about it.

During this incredible conversation, we discuss:
- Why the idea that we will “marry the right person” sets us up for disappointment
- How our childhood experiences shape who we’re drawn to as adults
- The hidden cost of perfectionism in relationships
- The cultural myths about soulmates, instant understanding and effortless romance, and how - these ideas can undermine lasting love
- How unprocessed trauma can resurface in our closest relationships, and why learning to communicate our needs is an essential skill
- The surprising role that distance, independence and time apart can play in sustaining desire and intimacy

There’s something deeply reassuring in knowing that love doesn’t have to look like the stories we grew up with. And by letting go of these cultural myths and by embracing each other’s flaws, we improve not only our relationships, but also how happy and contented we feel. I hope you enjoy listening.

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Episode description

This episode is brought to you by:
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We live in a culture that often celebrates the ‘perfect’ relationship but does little to prepare us for the reality of long-term commitment. Modern life is filled with idealised images of love and marriage – but the truth, as this week’s returning guest suggests, is far more human, messy and ultimately hopeful.

I’m delighted to welcome Alain de Botton back to the podcast. Alain is an author, internationally acclaimed philosopher and founder of The School of Life, a hugely popular education and wellness organisation that provides guidance on how to achieve happiness and fulfilment. His latest book, ‘From Trauma to Healing: How to Locate, Process and Recover From Psychological Wounds’ helps us understand what trauma is, how it affects us and what we can do about it.

During this incredible conversation, we discuss:
- Why the idea that we will “marry the right person” sets us up for disappointment
- How our childhood experiences shape who we’re drawn to as adults
- The hidden cost of perfectionism in relationships
- The cultural myths about soulmates, instant understanding and effortless romance, and how - these ideas can undermine lasting love
- How unprocessed trauma can resurface in our closest relationships, and why learning to communicate our needs is an essential skill
- The surprising role that distance, independence and time apart can play in sustaining desire and intimacy

There’s something deeply reassuring in knowing that love doesn’t have to look like the stories we grew up with. And by letting go of these cultural myths and by embracing each other’s flaws, we improve not only our relationships, but also how happy and contented we feel. I hope you enjoy listening.

#feelbetterlivemore
----
Find out about Alain de Botton:
https://www.instagram.com/theschooloflifelondon
https://x.com/TheSchoolOfLife
https://www.tiktok.com/@theschooloflife
https://www.facebook.com/theschooloflifeglobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/schooloflifechannel

Alain’s book:
From Trauma to Healing: How to Locate, Process and Recover From Psychological Wounds US https://amzn.to/4n4Pjdj UK https://amzn.to/45ZtZzg


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Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK
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Follow Dr Chatterjee at:
Website: https://drchatterjee.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee
Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/
Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription

DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Recognize fast-maturing children as compensating for immature parents

Children who grow up fast are often compensating for parents who are still children inside, as the child must become as adult as the parent is immature.

Embrace flawed humanity for a good relationship

A good relationship is founded on a gracious acceptance of your partner's flawed humanity, rather than an insistence on finding the 'right' person.

Cultivate love as a skill through effort and learning

We should view love not as a passive feeling that is either present or absent, but as a skill that is the fruit of labor and learning.

Manage distance to cultivate healthy love in relationships

Every relationship involves navigating between the terror of being engulfed by your partner and the terror of being abandoned by them.

Recognize anxiety after success as a signal of past trauma

Feeling worried or eerie after achieving success can be a sign of a past trauma where winning was associated with upsetting a loved one.

Embrace potential in your partner's growth

True love is not a static acceptance of who your partner is today, but a generous love for the person they are trying to become.

Rebalance life through sexual kinks and excitement

Sexual excitement, or kinks, often sits on an area of life that was once painful, and sex allows a cathartic rebalancing of qualities absent from daily life.

Recognize rejection of love in traumatized individuals

The first response of a traumatized person facing genuine love can be to reject it, as their system has shrunk its need for love in order to survive.

Find solace in nature's indifference to your problems

Nature provides a sublime lesson in the indifference of the universe, which is a relief because it tells you that you and your problems don't matter.

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