What You’re Getting Wrong About Exercise – Sal Di Stefano

Dave Asprey

Feb 15, 2024

Episode description

I’m pumped to welcome one of the hosts of the Mind Pump Podcast, top trainer and entrepreneur Sal Di Stefano. Mind Pump pulls back the curtain on the health, fitness, and nutrition industries, cuts through the pseudo-science, and offers science-backed solutions for enhancing performance while emphasizing health. 

Sal started his journey in the gym at age 14, and I admire how he’s steadily grown a meaningful business around biohacking fitness. 

On today’s episode, we take on some weighty topics like weight training vs. cardio, why veganism is dangerous, and why reverse dieting may actually be the key for results. Sal explains his fitness philosophy, which focuses on functional movement, reframing your mindset around exercise, and consistency above all else. 

We also get into the nutrition side of things. Sal and I break down how much protein you should be eating per day, plus our favorite proteins—and the evil ones we avoid. We also talk carbs. Do they make you fat? How do they impact performance? What are the best sources? Then, we get fired up talking about how you can fire up your metabolism. 

This episode is for everyone, from gym newbies to serious bodybuilders. And check out my episode on The Mind Pump Podcast to get a double dose of me and Sal (watch or listen).

(00:01:03) Are Bodybuilders the Edgiest Biohackers?

(00:04:51) Strength Training vs. Cardio

(00:12:27) Strength Training as a Longevity Tool

(00:16:32) Moving Toward Functional Movement

(00:21:10) Reframing Movement in Your Mind

(00:29:17) Why Veganism Is Dangerous

(00:33:27) Do Carbs Make You Fat?

(00:38:34) Should You Reverse Diet?

(00:40:54) How Much Protein Should You Eat?

(00:50:18) Is There Any Good Reason To Eat Chicken?

(00:55:10) Winning Carb Choices

(00:59:42) Sal’s #1 Recommended Supplement

(01:02:00) The Single Biggest Fitness Mistake

Sponsors

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Resources

Dave Asprey’s NEW Book ‘Smarter Not Harder’ is out now: https://daveasprey.com/books 

Mind Pump Podcast: mindpumppodcast.com

Mind Pump Training Protocols: mindpumpmedia.com/maps-fitness-products

Mind Pump Instagram: @mindpumpmedia

Sal’s Instagram:

Episode description

I’m pumped to welcome one of the hosts of the Mind Pump Podcast, top trainer and entrepreneur Sal Di Stefano. Mind Pump pulls back the curtain on the health, fitness, and nutrition industries, cuts through the pseudo-science, and offers science-backed solutions for enhancing performance while emphasizing health. 

Sal started his journey in the gym at age 14, and I admire how he’s steadily grown a meaningful business around biohacking fitness. 

On today’s episode, we take on some weighty topics like weight training vs. cardio, why veganism is dangerous, and why reverse dieting may actually be the key for results. Sal explains his fitness philosophy, which focuses on functional movement, reframing your mindset around exercise, and consistency above all else. 

We also get into the nutrition side of things. Sal and I break down how much protein you should be eating per day, plus our favorite proteins—and the evil ones we avoid. We also talk carbs. Do they make you fat? How do they impact performance? What are the best sources? Then, we get fired up talking about how you can fire up your metabolism. 

This episode is for everyone, from gym newbies to serious bodybuilders. And check out my episode on The Mind Pump Podcast to get a double dose of me and Sal (watch or listen).

(00:01:03) Are Bodybuilders the Edgiest Biohackers?

(00:04:51) Strength Training vs. Cardio

(00:12:27) Strength Training as a Longevity Tool

(00:16:32) Moving Toward Functional Movement

(00:21:10) Reframing Movement in Your Mind

(00:29:17) Why Veganism Is Dangerous

(00:33:27) Do Carbs Make You Fat?

(00:38:34) Should You Reverse Diet?

(00:40:54) How Much Protein Should You Eat?

(00:50:18) Is There Any Good Reason To Eat Chicken?

(00:55:10) Winning Carb Choices

(00:59:42) Sal’s #1 Recommended Supplement

(01:02:00) The Single Biggest Fitness Mistake

Sponsors

Mitosynergy | Get 15% off now at Mitosynergy.com/Dave

40 Years of Zen | Upgrade Your Brain in 5 Days by going to 40YearsOfZen.com/Dave

Resources

Dave Asprey’s NEW Book ‘Smarter Not Harder’ is out now: https://daveasprey.com/books 

Mind Pump Podcast: mindpumppodcast.com

Mind Pump Training Protocols: mindpumpmedia.com/maps-fitness-products

Mind Pump Instagram: @mindpumpmedia

Sal’s Instagram:

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Cycle carbohydrates for strength and mental clarity

Manipulate your diet by eating more carbohydrates for strength and power performance, but switch to lower carbohydrates for mental sharpness.

Understand nutritional hierarchy of animal foods for better choices

There is a nutritional hierarchy of animal foods, with chicken being entry-level 'peasant food' and cows being at the top in terms of nutritional superiority.

Utilize 100 grams of protein in a single meal for optimal benefits

The body can utilize 100 grams of protein in a single meal, and the common 30-50 gram limit is likely a myth originating from the supplement industry.

Implement reverse dieting to rejuvenate metabolism

For those with a stalled metabolism from chronic dieting, slowly increasing calories in a 'reverse diet' can speed it up, making future fat loss easier.

Recognize efficiency in calorie burning among hunter-gatherers

A study on the Hadza tribe found they burn a similar amount of calories as the average Western couch potato, as the body adapts to high activity by becoming more efficient.

Prioritize androgen receptor density for optimal muscle growth

Androgen receptor density is a much better predictor of muscle growth than testosterone levels, and strength training increases this sensitivity.

Prioritize exercise to enhance healthspan over lifespan

Exercise is critical for preventing you from dying prematurely and improving healthspan, but it doesn't necessarily extend your maximum potential lifespan.

Strength train once every two weeks to maintain muscle

To prevent muscle loss, studies show that as little as one strength training session every two weeks can be enough.

Attach 10-minute walks to meals for better consistency

To improve consistency, it's more effective to attach a 10-minute walk to something you already do, like after breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Transform workouts into self-care for sustainable training

Approaching workouts as an act of self-care rather than self-hate leads to more appropriate and sustainable training, preventing burnout and overtraining.

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