The ULTIMATE Nutrition, Diet And Fitness DEEP DIVE | Layne Norton X Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Mar 18, 2024

Episode description

Rich sits down with renowned nutrition and fitness expert Dr. Layne Norton to talk about how social media influencers distort the science of nutrition and fitness, and how to discern fact from fiction. To read more about Layne and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾https://bit.ly/richroll820
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FILMED AND EDITED BY BLAKE CURTIS & DAN DRAKE
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:28 Busting Diet Myths - Seed Oils
00:06:33 Mechanisms and Outcomes of Seed Oils
00:11:14 Conspiracy Theories and Food Industry Influence
00:12:34 Influence and Misleading Arguments
00:13:24 Cruciferous Vegetable Intake and Thyroid
00:15:07 Plant Toxins and Lectins
00:15:59 Elimination Diet and Gut Sensitivities
00:20:40 Next Myth - LDL Cholesterol Doesn’t Matter
00:21:45 Elevated LDL and Mendelian Randomization Studies
00:22:54 Lifetime Exposure Risk and Low Carb Diets
00:24:09 LDL and Heart Disease Risk
00:25:30 Metabolic Health and LDL Levels
00:26:00 Unique Subtype of High LDL
00:27:07 Weight Loss, LDL, and Metabolic Health
00:32:14 Sponsor Break
00:34:48 Carnivores and Fiber
00:44:46 Next Myth - Eating Fat to Burn Fat
00:51:10 Burning Fat vs. Losing Fat
00:52:35 Energy Balance and Body Fat
00:55:51 Short Term Responses vs. Long Term Outcomes
00:57:34 Protein and Amino Acids
01:06:07 Protein from Whole Foods vs Supplementing Amino Acid
01:09:17 Leucine and Muscle Building
01:13:05 Sponsor Break
01:15:34 Advice for Plant-Based People
01:19:30 Christopher Gardner's Twin Study
01:23:05 Impact of Dietary Choices on Health Outcomes
01:28:45 Consistency and Sustainability in Dietary Choices
01:30:52 Layne's Approach to Information Dissemination
01:35:22 Tribalism in Nutrition and Fitness
01:37:35 Anecdotal Experiences and Humility in Nutrition Science
01:41:09 Red Flags in Nutrition Advice
01:43:26 Psychology and Responsibility in Weight Loss
01:48:08 Empathy and Accountability in Coaching
01:52:23 Complexity of Human Nature and Psychology in Making Positive Changes
01:52:56 Personal Relationships and Shame Spiral
01:54:24 Food as a Coping Mechanism
01:55:17 Understanding Food Habits and Psychological Barriers
01:56:20 Challenges of Moderating Food and Mindset Matters
01:58:10 Defining Processed Foods and Mindset in Dietary Choices
02:01:17 The Binary Nature of Dietary Choices
02:02:17 Mindset and Flexibility in Food Choices
02:04:32 The Disinhibition Reflex and Flexible Mindset
02:05:33 Behavioral Habits, Mindset, and Decision Making
02:08:08 Layne's Thoughts on Making Lasting Behavioral Change
02:11:38 Simplifying Weight Loss and Caloric Intake
02:13:29 Calories, Energy Expenditure, and Estimation
02:15:35 Personal Responsibility in Caloric Intake
02:16:29 Hormonal Dysregulation and BMR
02:17:10 Obese Resistant and Appetite Regulation
02:18:09 Spontaneous Movement and Energy Expenditure
02:19:59 Exercise and Appetite Regulation
02:23:39 Societal Changes and Appetite Dysregulation
02:29:28 Science Communication and Trust
02:32:33 Admitting Bias and Trustworthiness
02:34:25 Understanding Risk and Credentials
02:36:46 Nobel Prize Syndrome and Cognitive Dissonance
02:38:03 Galaxy Brain
02:38:44 Authority and Bias
02:39:54 Healthy Eating Patterns
02:42:18 Funding Sources and Integrity
02:44:57 Real Experts and Communication
02:53:35 Debunking and Self-Policing
02:57:06 Responsibility of Platforms
03:00:48 Forming a New Identity and Lifestyle Changes
03:07:00 Analysis Paralysis
03:08:28 Courage to Take the Step
03:11:21 Learning from Setbacks
03:14:04 Disconnecting Feelings from Action
03:16:03 The Power of Why
03:17:02 Mood Follows Action
03:20:40 Building Momentum
03:22:36 Credits

Episode description

Rich sits down with renowned nutrition and fitness expert Dr. Layne Norton to talk about how social media influencers distort the science of nutrition and fitness, and how to discern fact from fiction. To read more about Layne and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾https://bit.ly/richroll820
✌🏼🌱 - Rich

This Episode Brought To You By...

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Learn more about the network 👉 voicingchange.media

LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST
Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes
Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify
Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods

Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com
Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc
Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips
Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail

CONNECT WITH RICH
✩ Website - http://richroll.com​
✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/
✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/
✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll
✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans
✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich
✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/
✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​
✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/
✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/
✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll

FILMED AND EDITED BY BLAKE CURTIS & DAN DRAKE
https://www.blakecurtis.net/
https://www.dandrake333.com/

TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:28 Busting Diet Myths - Seed Oils
00:06:33 Mechanisms and Outcomes of Seed Oils
00:11:14 Conspiracy Theories and Food Industry Influence
00:12:34 Influence and Misleading Arguments
00:13:24 Cruciferous Vegetable Intake and Thyroid
00:15:07 Plant Toxins and Lectins
00:15:59 Elimination Diet and Gut Sensitivities
00:20:40 Next Myth - LDL Cholesterol Doesn’t Matter
00:21:45 Elevated LDL and Mendelian Randomization Studies
00:22:54 Lifetime Exposure Risk and Low Carb Diets
00:24:09 LDL and Heart Disease Risk
00:25:30 Metabolic Health and LDL Levels
00:26:00 Unique Subtype of High LDL
00:27:07 Weight Loss, LDL, and Metabolic Health
00:32:14 Sponsor Break
00:34:48 Carnivores and Fiber
00:44:46 Next Myth - Eating Fat to Burn Fat
00:51:10 Burning Fat vs. Losing Fat
00:52:35 Energy Balance and Body Fat
00:55:51 Short Term Responses vs. Long Term Outcomes
00:57:34 Protein and Amino Acids
01:06:07 Protein from Whole Foods vs Supplementing Amino Acid
01:09:17 Leucine and Muscle Building
01:13:05 Sponsor Break
01:15:34 Advice for Plant-Based People
01:19:30 Christopher Gardner's Twin Study
01:23:05 Impact of Dietary Choices on Health Outcomes
01:28:45 Consistency and Sustainability in Dietary Choices
01:30:52 Layne's Approach to Information Dissemination
01:35:22 Tribalism in Nutrition and Fitness
01:37:35 Anecdotal Experiences and Humility in Nutrition Science
01:41:09 Red Flags in Nutrition Advice
01:43:26 Psychology and Responsibility in Weight Loss
01:48:08 Empathy and Accountability in Coaching
01:52:23 Complexity of Human Nature and Psychology in Making Positive Changes
01:52:56 Personal Relationships and Shame Spiral
01:54:24 Food as a Coping Mechanism
01:55:17 Understanding Food Habits and Psychological Barriers
01:56:20 Challenges of Moderating Food and Mindset Matters
01:58:10 Defining Processed Foods and Mindset in Dietary Choices
02:01:17 The Binary Nature of Dietary Choices
02:02:17 Mindset and Flexibility in Food Choices
02:04:32 The Disinhibition Reflex and Flexible Mindset
02:05:33 Behavioral Habits, Mindset, and Decision Making
02:08:08 Layne's Thoughts on Making Lasting Behavioral Change
02:11:38 Simplifying Weight Loss and Caloric Intake
02:13:29 Calories, Energy Expenditure, and Estimation
02:15:35 Personal Responsibility in Caloric Intake
02:16:29 Hormonal Dysregulation and BMR
02:17:10 Obese Resistant and Appetite Regulation
02:18:09 Spontaneous Movement and Energy Expenditure
02:19:59 Exercise and Appetite Regulation
02:23:39 Societal Changes and Appetite Dysregulation
02:29:28 Science Communication and Trust
02:32:33 Admitting Bias and Trustworthiness
02:34:25 Understanding Risk and Credentials
02:36:46 Nobel Prize Syndrome and Cognitive Dissonance
02:38:03 Galaxy Brain
02:38:44 Authority and Bias
02:39:54 Healthy Eating Patterns
02:42:18 Funding Sources and Integrity
02:44:57 Real Experts and Communication
02:53:35 Debunking and Self-Policing
02:57:06 Responsibility of Platforms
03:00:48 Forming a New Identity and Lifestyle Changes
03:07:00 Analysis Paralysis
03:08:28 Courage to Take the Step
03:11:21 Learning from Setbacks
03:14:04 Disconnecting Feelings from Action
03:16:03 The Power of Why
03:17:02 Mood Follows Action
03:20:40 Building Momentum
03:22:36 Credits

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Recognize false attribution in carnivore diet benefits

Many people who feel better on a carnivore diet are experiencing a false attribution error, as it's an elimination diet that removed a gut irritant, not proof that all plants are toxic.

Identify real experts by their nuanced discussions

Real experts rarely use superlatives like 'always' or 'best' and are comfortable discussing nuance, because in health, there are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs.

Transform identity daily for successful weight loss maintenance

The most successful long-term weight loss maintainers consistently report that they had to form a new identity, choosing to be a different person every single day.

Stop analyzing and start making health changes

When it comes to health, people often argue over what started the fire instead of just getting out of the house; the key is to stop analyzing and start making changes.

Achieve muscle growth with sufficient plant protein intake

Studies show that once you consume enough total plant protein to hit a certain threshold, the muscle-building response can be the same as from animal protein like whey.

Avoid over-indexing on CGM spikes for long-term health insights

Be careful equating short-term responses, like a glucose spike on a CGM, with long-term outcomes, much like how exercise causes short-term inflammation for long-term benefit.

Understand energy balance to differentiate fat burning from fat loss

Burning more fat is not the same as losing more body fat, as a high-fat diet increases both fat burning and fat storage, with net fat loss ultimately determined by energy balance.

Increase fruit and vegetable intake to mitigate meat's cancer risk

In a large study, the association between meat intake and cancer disappeared at high levels of fruit and vegetable intake, suggesting plant compounds may offset meat's risk.

Establish causative link between LDL levels and heart disease risk

Mendelian randomization studies, which act like lifelong randomized control trials, show a clear causative link between LDL levels and the incidence of heart disease.

Focus on overall outcomes, not single pathways in nutrition

Worrying about a single negative biochemical pathway of a food is like focusing on a single bad stock in a mutual fund that's performing well; what matters is the final outcome.

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