Why “Old-School” Methods For Managing Pain Don't Work, & How To Use The NEW Understanding of Cells & Body Electricity To Manage Chronic Pain Better, With Dr. Stephen Hussey

Ben Greenfield

Jan 23, 2025

Episode description

The sensation of pain has played an essential role in the evolution of life.

As life evolved to be more complex, the mechanisms of how pain is created and felt have also become more complex. While pain signaling is essential for the success of any species, humans are facing an epidemic of pathologic pain signaling that has no usefulness for survival: chronic pain.

This epidemic of chronic pain is creating the unnecessary suffering of millions of people. It costs millions of dollars to treat and prevents millions of people from working. Furthermore, the treatments offered by modern medicine (drugs and surgery) are not only ineffective but also cause more problems than they solve.

Dr. Hussey guides clients from around the world back to health by using the latest research and health-attaining strategies. In his downtime, he likes to be outdoors, play sports, read, write, and travel.

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/painsensebook

Episode Sponsors: 

Timeline Nutrition: Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mitopure while supplies last. Go to timelinenutrition.com/BEN.

Truvaga: Balance your nervous system naturally with Truvaga. Visit Truvaga.com/Greenfield and use code GREENFIELD30 to save $30 off any Truvaga device. Calm your mind, focus better, and recover faster in just two minutes.

BIOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: The 7 essential forms of magnesium included in this full spectrum serving help you relax, unwind, and turn off your active brain after a long and stressful day so you can rest peacefully and wake up feeling refreshed, vibrant, and alert. Go to bioptimizers.com/ben and use code BEN10 for 10% off any order. 

NOVOS: NOVOS Core’s patent-pending formula includes the fully efficacious dosage of 12 natural ingredients. Go to novoslabs.com and add the code BEN10 at checkout for 10% off of your first month’s NOVOS Core subscription.

ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic: The world's first genetically engineered probiotic that helps break down the toxic byproduct of alcohol, Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol allows you to enjoy your night out and feel great the next day. Order with the confidence of a 100% money-back guarantee and 15% off your first order at

Episode description

The sensation of pain has played an essential role in the evolution of life.

As life evolved to be more complex, the mechanisms of how pain is created and felt have also become more complex. While pain signaling is essential for the success of any species, humans are facing an epidemic of pathologic pain signaling that has no usefulness for survival: chronic pain.

This epidemic of chronic pain is creating the unnecessary suffering of millions of people. It costs millions of dollars to treat and prevents millions of people from working. Furthermore, the treatments offered by modern medicine (drugs and surgery) are not only ineffective but also cause more problems than they solve.

Dr. Hussey guides clients from around the world back to health by using the latest research and health-attaining strategies. In his downtime, he likes to be outdoors, play sports, read, write, and travel.

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/painsensebook

Episode Sponsors: 

Timeline Nutrition: Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mitopure while supplies last. Go to timelinenutrition.com/BEN.

Truvaga: Balance your nervous system naturally with Truvaga. Visit Truvaga.com/Greenfield and use code GREENFIELD30 to save $30 off any Truvaga device. Calm your mind, focus better, and recover faster in just two minutes.

BIOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: The 7 essential forms of magnesium included in this full spectrum serving help you relax, unwind, and turn off your active brain after a long and stressful day so you can rest peacefully and wake up feeling refreshed, vibrant, and alert. Go to bioptimizers.com/ben and use code BEN10 for 10% off any order. 

NOVOS: NOVOS Core’s patent-pending formula includes the fully efficacious dosage of 12 natural ingredients. Go to novoslabs.com and add the code BEN10 at checkout for 10% off of your first month’s NOVOS Core subscription.

ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic: The world's first genetically engineered probiotic that helps break down the toxic byproduct of alcohol, Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol allows you to enjoy your night out and feel great the next day. Order with the confidence of a 100% money-back guarantee and 15% off your first order at

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Recognize pain as a signal of voltage drop in tissues

A pain signal starts when there is a pathological drop in a tissue's cellular voltage, which is then detected by sensory nerves and interpreted as pain by the brain.

Understand how structured water charges cells

A cell's negative charge comes from structured water, a gel-like fourth phase of water, which is created when water interacts with unfolded proteins inside the cell.

Reevaluate ATP's role beyond energy to protein unfolding

Contrary to popular belief, ATP's primary role is not as an energy currency but to unfold proteins, creating the surface area for water to become structured.

Manage worry to prevent chronic pain development

How much you worry about an injury while it's healing can rewire your brain to create a chronic pain sensation even after the physical damage is gone.

Utilize far-infrared light to structure water for detoxification and pain relief

The far-infrared wavelength of light is the most effective at creating structured water, which is the key mechanism behind the benefits of saunas for detoxification and pain relief.

Generate electricity in body through fascia movement

Stretching or compressing hydrated collagen fascia creates a charge separation known as the piezoelectric effect, generating electricity that is conducted throughout the body.

Rethink cell models to reflect natural living states

The common textbook image of a cell is likely an artifact, as the process of preparing cells for study fundamentally changes them from their natural, living state.

Harness melanin to convert light into energy

Melanin absorbs various forms of energy, including light, and uses it to split water molecules, releasing four electrons in the process.

Harness DHA to convert sunlight into electrical energy

The omega-3 fatty acid DHA in your skin has a cloud of electrons that, when hit by sunlight, creates a streaming electrical current in the body.

Charge your blood by grounding with the earth's electrons

Grounding allows the body to absorb electrons from the earth, which has been experimentally shown to increase the negative charge (zeta potential) of red blood cells.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Unlock the wisdom of longevity

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Unlock the wisdom of longevity

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Unlock the wisdom of longevity

Unlock the wisdom of longevity

© Mindsip 2025 – Made with ❤ in Vilnius

Unlock the wisdom of longevity

© Mindsip 2025 – Made with ❤ in Vilnius