How to Exercise & Eat for Optimal Health & Longevity | Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

Andrew Huberman

Jun 24, 2024

Episode description

In this episode, my guest is Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, D.O., a board-certified physician who did her clinical and research training at Washington University in geriatrics and nutrition. She is also an expert in how diet and exercise impact muscle and whole-body health and longevity. Dr. Lyon is a bestselling author and public educator. We discuss how healthy skeletal muscle promotes longevity, brain health, disease prevention, ideal body composition, and the health of other organs and bodily systems.

She makes specific nutritional recommendations for optimal health: what to eat, how much to eat, the timing of meals, the essential need for adequate quality protein (including animal and plant-based options), supplementation, and how our dietary requirements change with age. She explains why specific types of resistance training are essential to build and maintain muscle and overall metabolic health. She also describes how to include resistance training as part of your exercise regimen — regardless of age or sex.

She also provides specific mindset tools to encourage sustained adherence to healthy eating and exercise practices. Women and men of all ages will benefit from Dr. Lyon’s practical, evidence-based protocols to improve muscle and whole-body appearance, function, and health.

Access the full show notes, including referenced articles, books, people mentioned, and additional resources: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-gabrielle-lyon-how-to-exercise-eat-for-optimal-health-longevity

Pre-order Andrew's new book, Protocols: https://protocolsbook.com

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*Dr. Gabrielle Lyon*
Website: https://drgabriellelyon.com
Forever Strong: A New, Science-Based Strategy for Aging Well (book): https://amzlink.to/az0pYymmmfC8k
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrGabrielleLyon
X: https://x.com/drgabriellelyon
Podcast: https://drgabriellelyon.com/podcast
TEDx talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvHfNEX09Iw

*Timestamps*
00:00:00 Protocols Book; Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
00:03:23 Sponsors: Maui Nui, Levels & Helix Sleep
00:07:40 Skeletal Muscle & Longevity
00:11:25 “Under-muscled”, Leucine & Muscle Health
00:15:55 Muscle Health
00:19:45 Tool: Carbohydrate Consumption & Activity, Glycogen
00:25:14 Tools: Nutrition for Healthy Skeletal Muscle, First Meal
00:31:57 Sponsor: AG1
00:33:46 Quality Protein, Animal & Plant-Based Proteins
00:37:36 Dietary Protein Recommendations, Meal Threshold
00:41:19 Muscle Health & Aging
00:46:02 Supplements & Creatine; Dietary Protein
00:50:07 Tool: Dietary Protein Recommendation; Gout & Cancer Risk
00:52:43 Effects of Dietary Protein & Exercise on Body Composition
01:03:06 Thermic Effects, Protein
01:05:02 Sponsor: InsideTracker
01:06:14 Protein & Satiety, Insulin & Glucose
01:12:04 Tool: Older Adults, Resistance Training & Dietary Protein
01:17:48 Dietary Protein, mTOR & Cancer Risk
01:21:36 Muscle Span & Aging, Sedentary Behaviors
01:24:00 Mixed Meals, Protein Quality, Fiber
01:29:21 Inactivity & Insulin Resistance, Inflammation
01:38:43 Exercise & Myokines, Brain Health & BDNF
01:44:11 Tool: Resistance Training Protocols, Hypertrophy, “High Ground”
01:52:51 High Ground Exercises; Tendon Strength; Training Duration, Blue Zones
01:58:19 Movement, Exercise & Older Adults
02:04:25 Tool: Protein Timing & Resistance Training; VO2 Max, Aging, Blood Work
02:11:13 Supplements: Creatine, Urolithin A, Whey Protein, Fish Oil, Collagen
02:20:18 Fasting, Older Adults; Tool: Meal Timing
02:25:18 Animal Proteins & Dairy; Organ Meats, Vegan; Magnesium, Zinc
02:30:59 Medications & Muscle Health
02:32:49 Obesity & GLP-1 Analogs, Ozempic, Mounjaro, Skeletal Muscle
02:40:48 Benefits of Skeletal Muscle & Aging
02:42:16 Tools: Nutrition & Resistance Training for Muscle Health
02:45:44 Mindset Tools: Standards vs. Goals; Vulnerability Points
02:52:00 Mindset Tools: Neutrality; Health & Worth
03:01:14 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter, Protocols Book

#HubermanLab #Exercise #Science

Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Episode description

In this episode, my guest is Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, D.O., a board-certified physician who did her clinical and research training at Washington University in geriatrics and nutrition. She is also an expert in how diet and exercise impact muscle and whole-body health and longevity. Dr. Lyon is a bestselling author and public educator. We discuss how healthy skeletal muscle promotes longevity, brain health, disease prevention, ideal body composition, and the health of other organs and bodily systems.

She makes specific nutritional recommendations for optimal health: what to eat, how much to eat, the timing of meals, the essential need for adequate quality protein (including animal and plant-based options), supplementation, and how our dietary requirements change with age. She explains why specific types of resistance training are essential to build and maintain muscle and overall metabolic health. She also describes how to include resistance training as part of your exercise regimen — regardless of age or sex.

She also provides specific mindset tools to encourage sustained adherence to healthy eating and exercise practices. Women and men of all ages will benefit from Dr. Lyon’s practical, evidence-based protocols to improve muscle and whole-body appearance, function, and health.

Access the full show notes, including referenced articles, books, people mentioned, and additional resources: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-gabrielle-lyon-how-to-exercise-eat-for-optimal-health-longevity

Pre-order Andrew's new book, Protocols: https://protocolsbook.com

*Thank you to our sponsors*
AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman
Maui Nui Venison: https://mauinuivenison.com/huberman
Levels: https://levels.link/huberman
Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman
InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman

*Huberman Lab Social & Website*
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman
Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com
Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter

*Dr. Gabrielle Lyon*
Website: https://drgabriellelyon.com
Forever Strong: A New, Science-Based Strategy for Aging Well (book): https://amzlink.to/az0pYymmmfC8k
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrGabrielleLyon
X: https://x.com/drgabriellelyon
Podcast: https://drgabriellelyon.com/podcast
TEDx talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvHfNEX09Iw

*Timestamps*
00:00:00 Protocols Book; Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
00:03:23 Sponsors: Maui Nui, Levels & Helix Sleep
00:07:40 Skeletal Muscle & Longevity
00:11:25 “Under-muscled”, Leucine & Muscle Health
00:15:55 Muscle Health
00:19:45 Tool: Carbohydrate Consumption & Activity, Glycogen
00:25:14 Tools: Nutrition for Healthy Skeletal Muscle, First Meal
00:31:57 Sponsor: AG1
00:33:46 Quality Protein, Animal & Plant-Based Proteins
00:37:36 Dietary Protein Recommendations, Meal Threshold
00:41:19 Muscle Health & Aging
00:46:02 Supplements & Creatine; Dietary Protein
00:50:07 Tool: Dietary Protein Recommendation; Gout & Cancer Risk
00:52:43 Effects of Dietary Protein & Exercise on Body Composition
01:03:06 Thermic Effects, Protein
01:05:02 Sponsor: InsideTracker
01:06:14 Protein & Satiety, Insulin & Glucose
01:12:04 Tool: Older Adults, Resistance Training & Dietary Protein
01:17:48 Dietary Protein, mTOR & Cancer Risk
01:21:36 Muscle Span & Aging, Sedentary Behaviors
01:24:00 Mixed Meals, Protein Quality, Fiber
01:29:21 Inactivity & Insulin Resistance, Inflammation
01:38:43 Exercise & Myokines, Brain Health & BDNF
01:44:11 Tool: Resistance Training Protocols, Hypertrophy, “High Ground”
01:52:51 High Ground Exercises; Tendon Strength; Training Duration, Blue Zones
01:58:19 Movement, Exercise & Older Adults
02:04:25 Tool: Protein Timing & Resistance Training; VO2 Max, Aging, Blood Work
02:11:13 Supplements: Creatine, Urolithin A, Whey Protein, Fish Oil, Collagen
02:20:18 Fasting, Older Adults; Tool: Meal Timing
02:25:18 Animal Proteins & Dairy; Organ Meats, Vegan; Magnesium, Zinc
02:30:59 Medications & Muscle Health
02:32:49 Obesity & GLP-1 Analogs, Ozempic, Mounjaro, Skeletal Muscle
02:40:48 Benefits of Skeletal Muscle & Aging
02:42:16 Tools: Nutrition & Resistance Training for Muscle Health
02:45:44 Mindset Tools: Standards vs. Goals; Vulnerability Points
02:52:00 Mindset Tools: Neutrality; Health & Worth
03:01:14 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter, Protocols Book

#HubermanLab #Exercise #Science

Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Mindsip insights from this episode:

Recognize skeletal muscle as key to longevity

We should view skeletal muscle as the organ of longevity, as many metabolic diseases like type 2 diabetes and obesity begin in the muscle decades before diagnosis.

Limit carbohydrates to 40-50 grams per meal for sedentary individuals

A sedentary person should aim for 40 to 50 grams of carbohydrates per meal to mitigate a large insulin response, earning additional carbs through exercise.

Increase protein intake to stimulate muscle response in aging

As you age, your body becomes less efficient at protein synthesis, requiring a higher protein intake per meal (40-50 grams) to stimulate a youthful muscle response.

Prioritize first and last protein-rich meals for optimal muscle health

For optimal muscle health, the first and last protein-rich meals of the day are the most important, more so than ensuring an even distribution across all meals.

Recognize worthiness to enhance health

A person will only ever be as healthy as they feel worthy of, and self-sabotage often stems from a subconscious belief that one doesn't deserve to feel good.

Establish non-negotiable standards for nutrition and training

Instead of setting transient goals like weight loss, establish non-negotiable standards for your nutrition and training to create a framework for consistent, long-term execution.

Boost muscle strength and endurance with urolithin A postbiotic

Urolithin A, a postbiotic supplement taken at 500-1000mg, can improve mitochondrial health in muscles, leading to increased strength and endurance.

Prioritize 'high ground' machine exercises for safe muscle growth

For safe and effective muscle growth, especially for beginners, prioritize 'high ground' machine exercises like the hack squat or leg press that provide support and allow for better muscle focus.

Reframe obesity as under-muscled to prioritize muscle health

The problem of obesity should be reframed as being 'under-muscled,' shifting the focus from just losing fat to building and maintaining healthy muscle tissue.

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