Longevity roundtable — the science of aging, geroprotective molecules, lifestyle interventions, challenges in research, and more | Steven Austad, Matt Kaeberlein, Richard Miller
Peter Attia
Jan 27, 2025
Mindsip insights from this episode:
Reevaluate cellular senescence research based on flawed origins
The entire field of cellular senescence may be a "terrible historical accident" based on a joke, with a specific senolytic drug, Fisetin, showing no effect on lifespan or senescent cells in ITP mice.
Reject trade-off myth: healthspan and lifespan are interconnected
Interventions that extend lifespan in mice do so by postponing diseases, making the idea of a trade-off between healthspan and lifespan a ridiculous and false metaphor.
Reevaluate the concept of healthspan for clarity
The term "healthspan" is considered vacuous and nebulous because it's impossible to define with a single number when a person's health has officially ended.
Challenge turf wars to secure aging research funding
The NIH is unlikely to properly fund aging research because disease-specific fields like cardiology and oncology view it as an invasion and defend their budgets with a "porcupine defense.".
Question the reliability of biological age kits due to inconsistent results
A self-experiment on four direct-to-consumer epigenetic age kits yielded a 21-year range in biological age from the same sample, suggesting the industry is a "complete mess.".
Challenge the limitations of "hallmarks of aging" to advance research
The famous "Hallmarks of Aging" may have set the field back by creating an arbitrary list that stifles research on unlisted topics and allows researchers to avoid proving their work's importance.
Implement aging rate indicators to test anti-aging drugs effectively
To effectively test anti-aging drugs in humans, we need "aging rate indicators" (like a speedometer) that measure the rate of aging, not just biomarkers (like an odometer) that measure the state of aging.
Debunk resveratrol myths: lifespan extension not proven
The only study showing resveratrol extended mouse lifespan was in mice fed a toxic diet that caused fatal liver expansion, and the drug merely prevented this specific pathology, not aging itself.
Question NAD precursors' value over inexpensive niacin
Data suggests that expensive NAD precursors like NMN and NR are broken down into simple niacin in the gut, questioning their value over a much cheaper alternative.
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